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Achilles vuetnam Vietnam has a definite place in the classroom, offering students a bridge to the past. Ken’s Book World Condition: Goodreads helps you keep track of books you want to read.

Most items shipped within 24 hours. We have become so accustomed to this that it easily escapes notice. The culture shock of civilians entering the stratified and ritualized military world is well known. However, Fussell, himself a World War II combat veteran, continues the passage without a change in tone: They wanted to give us a fucking Unit Citation — them fucking maggots.

I never knew what caused such things as the “beserk state,” but now felt able to sympathize with the feeling.

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If the people beneath you fail, you fail. Written aroundit represents an unusually accurate description of the symptom constellation of PTSD.

I have abandoned these discussions, because the sense of betrayal is still too great and the equation of defeat with abandonment by God and personal devaluation still too vivid.

Open Preview See a Problem? The Iliadic tack of this book also makes it deal in a more sophisticated way with the nature of stories as a source of learning, and that makes this, I think, a more compelling, and more truthful channeling of veteran voices than comes through in other books on the psychology of war e.

The author has also thrown light on issues that relate to that deconstruction of the konathan sense of self that I adhilles not thought of. The fiduciary assumption Compared to the modern soldier, the Homeric soldier hardly depended on others at all, and when he did it was upon comrades he knew personally and called on by name without technology to assist his own voice.


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Archived at the Wayback Machine. No trivia or quizzes yet. The definitive work on Vietnam era post traumatic stress.

Using the Iliad as a metaphor for war, Shay passionately yet clinically portrays the ongoing impact of Vietnam on the soldiers we whay there. Situation Normal, All Fucked Up — of war end and culpable incompetence begins.

And why have lands been granted you and me? Although the Iliad was written twenty-seven centuries ago it has much to teach about combat trauma, as do the more recent, compelling voices and experiences of Vietnam vets. Get a FREE e-book by joining our mailing list today! So, I mean, that’s okay then, right? I found a frightening similarity between many of the Vietnam experiences and those of the recent wars in the Middle East.

Victory — and the cut, crushed, burned, impaled, suffocated, frozen, diseased, drowned, poisoned, or blown-up corpses — mutually anchor each other’s meaning. Aug 04, Cameron rated it it was amazing. Ships same or next business day! I believe it is also the first and possibly the primary trauma that converted subsequent terror, horror, grief, and guilt into lifelong disability for Vietnam veterans.

Or, you might find your pass to town canceled at the last moment because, you finally remember, a few days ago you asked a question during the sergeant’s lecture on map-reading that he couldn’t answer.

Shay examines the psychological devastation of war by comparing the soldiers of Homer’s Iliad with Vietnam veterans suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder. At that time we moved. Jonathan Shay is a psychiatrist that works with Vietnam vets helping them cope with civilian life and helping them I feel that the word recover would be an inappropriate word since there are some things that one can never recover from, such as an amputation, and some psychological trauma simply cannot be healed live with the psychological trauma that is likely to be with them for the rest of their lives.


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However the nature of war has changed a lot since Napoleon’s day. There were specifics of the American experience that did not relate to Australians who participated because our approach to soldiering was different but the fundamentals remain the same. Only within the last few centuries has the era of “stone-age command” ended.

A word of this scope is needed for the betrayals experienced by Vietnam combat veterans. A town with walls I stormed and sacked for her. He also points out that dehumanizing the enemy leads to tactical errors and atrocities against noncombatants and that the Greeks and Trojans respected each other even though they were enemies.

Since it’s a complicated problem, the answer is quite complicated, and I can’t state all of its facets here. Thanks for telling us about the problem.

Above all, a sense of merely human virtue, a sense of being valued and of valuing anything, seems to have fled their lives. As I suggested, I am not a combat veteran and I found this veitnam very hard going myself, and in a way, reading this book also brought about flashbacks from my past, and I achillex hardly say that I suffer from PTSD or have had a hard life compared to many others in our society.