I looked back at Common Sense Atheism and the growing discussion that’s now over comments. It’s mostly a thoughtful discourse and you. Political philosophy; secularism; feminist ethics; Martha Nussbaum. Mügge: The Concept of Neutrality with Regard to Gender and Religion . and Expression of Senses, Imagination, and Thought; Emotions; Practical Reason; closer to Aristotle’s, suggesting that there is only one version of a good flourishing life. 4. In fact. At some times and places (s academia, I think), it was common to assert . So if something like Nussbaum’s analysis of “objectification” is what is meant by I never got to actually talk to the girl about it but my sense was that she .. ( And things like Elevatorgate, for those of you who follow the atheist.

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In the mean time, I invite our readers to share your opinions in comments. Whether or not your beliefs change, your desire to post sexy scientist posts has been changed to am aversion. Amazon Giveaway allows you to run promotional giveaways in order to create buzz, reward your audience, and attract new followers and customers.

News Bits Next post: Otherwise, consent to weak objectification is morally suspect. Sheril, How about both feeling flattered why not? It may embarass you.

Is there Such a Thing as “Good” Sexual Objectification? (Part Two) | Shaun Miller’s Ideas

Even though PZ matches his harsh tone with well thought out reasoning, it seems that the harsh tone is all that some people take away from him. Another type of context matters in this example: I suspect what we feel be important or right ultimately is exactly what defines what is important or right. Contradictions, Absurdities, and More: Maybe she will, yet.

Given that as Luke is discovering there is already a large body of literature about objectification, and that many members of Pharyngula have recently and repeatedly reviewed arguments contained in this literature, Luke may xommon appeared ignorant for not recognizing that these topics have recently been covered in depth, or for not recognizing that such literature exists or lazy for requesting that other people take the time [again] to summarize this large body of literature.


Look at that smug, sexist smile!

Other than this, I echo what Terry has said about practicality. The denial of subjectivity is a common but not universal feature of slavery.

The problem with objectification is not that the act of objectification is wrong, but that the concept of nusssbaum fails to explain why something like Playboy is wrong.

Studies in European Cinema. Earlierwhen I tried to figure out what “objectification” was and why it was wrong, the leading article on objfctification topic seemed to be one by philosopher Martha Nussbaum.

By continuing to use this website, you agree to their use. Notify me of new comments via email. I think this reflects my own thoughts quite well.

Canada’s life and family newspaper. Luke was not sexist in posting the pics of Sexy Atheists, even without seeking permission; those were cheesecake pictures of women publicly trying to look sexy — being sexy is what they do professionally.

Indeed, being part of a relationship means that partners will do things that they may not want to do. The question now is, why is objectifying bad?

That appears to be a judgment from a utilitarian perspective, though I suspect you could also defend it via contractarianism or virtue ethics. Or why at a bare minimum Ms. That would have been more acceptable to me.

The Problem with Objectification

And just as with the Playboy images, commoj photos involve a denial of autonomy. This lack of control often results in depression.

Robert, Thanks for the clarification. July 18, at 2: Camille Paglia holds that “[t]urning people into sex objects is one of the specialties of our species.


Which sexual behaviors under which contexts cannot be said to stand within a tradition of sexual abuse? By Sheril Kirshenbaum July 17, 3: From the perspective of the person being included in the list, nussbau, appropriateness of the label must surely depend on the person. Indirect consequences include self consciousness in terms that a woman is consistently checking or rearranging her clothes or appearance to ensure that she is presentable.

Both of the positions you describe are philosophy, in a sense. The issues concerning sexual objectification became first problemized during the s by feminist groups. This is really about privacy. Do something about the problem to show a bare minimum of compassion and wit, and then we can talk about what the issues are. No one seems to be arguing from their feelings to an incorporeal, transcendent, personal being.

At this point, this point is inane. Your writing his script for him also gives the feel of wanting him to sign a forced confession. I’ve tried to get people to explain it to me beforebut they were apparently not well-trained in rationality.

Toronto, OntarioCanada: I’m hoping a rationalist can explain it to me. And that’s okay, I think.

The Intersection

Registration only takes a few minutes to complete. Sheril, last week I taught an English conversation class to about 30 Japanese adult students. Some commentors seem to think that, even before Luke has investigated this further, he should take the post down, because their moral intuition tells them that is was wrong.